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Why English is not a good choice as an international language. And it is clear from your reply that you completely missed my point. People at BMW would be delighted at my comment! The widespread use of English at present proved that it is possible for a large part of humanity to use one language. But the instrument, English, is as imperfect at the Model T Ford, and it will be superceded as soon as people find a more efficient instrument. Zte axon 7 cheap Its domanance is ephemeral. Or you are not really a native speaker or you are playing a very shallow dumb act. The wide spread use of English by a large portion of the World population only herald a greater widespread use. And the more we are the worse it becomes for Esperanto. You are giving yourself and your Esperanto follower friends very little hope. If you are such a fanatical supporter of English, why do you not learn to use it properly?



Is it too difficult for you? Say it in Spanish if you are unable to say it in English. Riain, really, are you a native speaker indeed?


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How can you say such a foolish thing and at the same timer call yourself a native speaker. I, by definition, am not a native speaker.



And I know what it means, well enough to use it ironically. But for your enlightening this is the link to the Oxford dictionary (or are you going to say they cannot speak English either?


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Go learn some English native speaker. But what would I know I am just an speaker of English as a second language, and according to such a knowledgeable native speaker as you are, a very bad English speaker.



Come to think of it I now realize that is the only thing I know in English. Again way to go native speaker!


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Neither would any of the people in the GOP (conservative party) which runs Florida and which is now depriving almost 1 million people of public health care and therefore letting some of them die early. AND, yes, I know that you are an immigrant from Cuba here in the USA. HOWEVER, if I were not to help these people, who would? YES, my first language is GERMAN, which I acquired from birth. My first grade teacher washed my mouth out with soap in front of the class if I said a word in German and mocked me. English must be taught by physical force at times, I guess. I am sorry that I was born in the USA. The stork did not ask me before I was dropped off. That has made me an adamant support of Linguistic Rights. We are presently in a battle for bilingual education here in SE Florida.



I would like to see ALL children receive education in two languages or three. And due to our geographic location, I firmly believe that Spanish is important. I have a teaching certificate in Spanish and I read El Nuevo Herald daily, underlining new words and learning them. Fortunately, Esperanto is more helpful to me in my studies of Spanish than is English.


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BTW why did you not comment on my post in German? Actually, with England waffling on EU membership, I think that the FIRST step should be to showcase German as a European language.



We should not overestimate the position of English. If people in London do not speak English then the whole question of a global language is completely open. I say this as a native English speaker!


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Impractical because communication should be for all and not only for an educational or political elite. That is how English is used internationally at the moment. Undemocratic because minority languages are under attack worldwide due to the encroachment of majority ethnic languages.



Even Mandarin Chinese is attempting to dominate as well. The long-term solution must be found and a non-national language, which places all ethnic languages on an equal footing is essential. Thank you for your reply, it just go to show my point. When it comes to English and anything American, you are damaged goods. You have the misfortune of facing a very stupid person and now everybody that reminds you of that person has to pay for your bad experiences.


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I have nothing against language instruction (I am bilingual after all and earn my bread that way), and I agree with you that it is lacking in the American educational system (having studied and been a teacher in it). I have nothing against German, in another comment I said it was a much better alternative to Esperanto for the EU. Actually I wanted to learn it before English but I needed English, German was just a luxury at the time and later I never had the need or the time to do it. Communism is a beautiful idea, or philosophy if you want to call it that, it is just not feasible, practical or profitable, we are only human after all. It was proven in every single place where it was tried. At no time I have stated that Esperanto is, was or will be a bad language. The discussion is about the usefulness of such language as an Official Language in the EU. I just extended it to the whole World. I have heard the argument that it will contribute to linguistic diversity, because it was formed with roots of many languages.



So is modern English. Another argument is that it is so much easier to learn, I agree, but among all other languages English is one of the easiest to learn, easier that my native language, Spanish, and easier than German, French, Italian, Chinese and most other languages.


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You should know that as well as the next guy and better than most, after all you studied at least English, German and Esperanto. Nor have I said that English should be imposed as a EU or World language (every thing if imposed lose it appeals), but I stated that English, like French once was, is the de facto lingua franca in the World today and like French it might be knocked down from it pedestal as a result of a change in the distribution of power and preferences in the world. I did say that if we wanted to go the long haul we needed to change and become One Race, One World, One Language.



That I believe, call me idealist if you want, I prefer to think I am a realist. The World today is nothing but divided and everybody wants their country, culture, language, etc. And it should be, we all deserve our own identity.



But that belief, together with religion will be our undoing because it blinds us to the fact that we are just brothers that got separated at birth and that have traveled different paths to get to this point. I also did say that Esperanto is a bad choice, for the EU and for the World, simply basing my opinion in facts that are there for all to see. Esperanto is spoken, as a second language, by about 2 or 3 million people with no native speakers, English is spoken by over 400 million as a native language with the addition of at least another 100 million according to the most conservative estimates. A good deal of human culture have been translated to Esperanto, according to the statements of several debaters in this forum, I believe them, but most it has already been translated to English, at least the portion not due to English speaking persons and cultures.



In the other hand most of human scientific, technological, financial and economic life today is based or disseminated in English. There no infrastructure in Esperanto but a great deal of the World infrastructure is in English.



A lot, that is a real big lot, will be lost if English were to be presently discarded in favor of another language, and the biggest lost will happen if that language is Esperanto, not because it is a bad language but because it have a very little base, which is not even native and almost no (existing) influence in world affairs today. We do need a unique language that could in time unite all people. I also said Esperanto followers behave as a religion because they refuse to acknowledge reality and keep repeating the same arguments over and over but have nothing to offer in lieu of hard evidence proving their point. I believe in numbers, and numbers favor English right now. And yes, it will benefit Americans and Brits and Australians and Canadians and every other person who already speaks English.



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